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MatthewKlein
AlgoSystems
Jul '20

When it comes to C2Star strategies, there are two ways a strategy can “violate” program conditions.

One way is to violate risk or loss constraints. (i.e. to lose more than $X dollars over T time).

If you violate risk/loss constraints, you are removed completely from the program, completely. There is no way to restore a strategy back into the program once it violates risk/loss constraints.

But there is a second way you can not meet C2 Star requirements. If you do not outperform the SP500 over a rolling-time basis, you are not fully complying with C2Star. In this case, you are not kicked out of the program. You simply get pushed back into “evaluation” mode. (That’s the half-star icon you see.) The point is, since the performance window is rolling, you can eventually once again outperform the SP500 over a 60-day period, and restore full C2Star certification. In the meantime, you still need to comply with risk and loss control provisions.

It’s easy to see why so many C2Star strategies are not exceeding the SP500 at this particular moment. It’s because, since post-Pandemic lows, the stock market has been rising insanely fast.

I am not sure this is a problem with the C2Star program. In fact, it may be a feature. Strategies in evaluation mode (i.e. that “half-star” icon) are still required to generate alpha, with muted risk and drawdown.

When the broader stock market returns to earth, either with a crash or a gentle descent, my hope is that C2Star strategies will prove their value.

InteractiveAssets
Jul '20

That is helpful. I am still a bit uncertain on the 60 day window for outperforming by 1%.

Do you have to met that every day within the last billing period or only on one day each billing period when payment is determined?

For example, if for every rolling 60 day period ending in July the strategy outperformed the S&P by 1% and was positive except for one 60 day period ending say July 10th, would the manager get paid? Of course that is assuming that all the other metrics are met.

MatthewKlein
Jul '20

The manager gets paid on a pro-rated basis for the number of days he or she is fully certified. So, to take the simplest example, if the manager has achieved C2Star certification for a full 30.5 days, he is guaranteed to take home $1,000 in after-fee income, guaranteed by C2.

InteractiveAssets
Jul '20

Seems like a nice way to do it. Thank you for the clarification.

DwightSchrute
Jul '20

Okay I think I may just track the top 15 of each of the 4 leader boards I started tracking. It just takes a lot of time to check each one manually. If anyone wants to do more the data is available here 4.

Name | Return
--- | ---
SPY | 2.98%
C2 Star | -0.73%
Popular | -0.78%
Old Timers | 4.79%
IRA Friendly | 6.43%

Strategies were selected on 6/16/2020 and monitored through to 7/25/2020. There was no re-balancing of the strategies.

It is obviously too early to tell the long term results but that is pretty interesting start.

DwightSchrute:

> If I had to place a bet on best overall returns over the long run I would bet on IRA Long Only or on Old Timers. I just think the propensity to blow up is too common on the others.

- Full disclosure I run an IRA friendly strategy myself, but don’t want to directly market my strategy, which is why I am posting under this unrelated account. I just honestly believe that in the long run futures and forex strategies are prone to using too much leverage and shooting themselves in the foot.

2 months later
DwightSchrute
Sep '20

It has been approximately 3 months since I started tracking the top 15 strategies on various leader boards. I am now re-balancing this hypothetical portfolio. Below is a table for the summary of results for the first 3 months of results. Also below is a table with the details of this last 3 months and a table declaring what strategies I will be tracking for the next three month period.

% Return |
--- | ---
POPULARITY 15 | -0.97%
C2 Star 15 | 1.41%
IRA 15 | 8.63%
OLD TIMERS 15 | 9.98%
SPY | 6.74%
SPY w/ Dividends | 7.21%

Please let me know if you have any thoughts comments or suggestions. Definitely let me know if you spot any errors. I think if the results continue in a similar patter, C2 should consider putting more focus on Old Timers and IRA friendly strategies. Also, if there is any way C2 could develop a plan that would allow subscribers to spread smaller accounts across a basket of strategies such as old timers or IRA friendly would be very interesting. Say I have only $30,000 available to allocate to C2. I would much rather distribute $2,000 to each of the top 15 Old Timer strategies for a reasonable fee than pay $100 or so to each of the 15 strategies. I realize there are plenty of limitations such as no asset under management fee etc. So there may be no way to do such a thing, but if there was a way to implement such a program I think it could be very popular. Perhaps too popular for too little money though. I have no idea.

Board Category | Order | Start | End | Start $ | End $ | Return % | Link to Strategy
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
IRA | 1 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $106,076 | $121,262 | 14.32% | https://collective2.com/details/123937705 15
IRA | 2 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $31,806 | $34,674 | 9.02% | https://collective2.com/details/125401215 4
IRA | 3 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $21,376 | $22,205 | 3.88% | https://collective2.com/details/106004078 3
IRA | 4 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $80,438 | $92,204 | 14.63% | https://collective2.com/details/106804598 7
IRA | 5 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $83,706 | $90,028 | 7.55% | https://collective2.com/details/123261809 3
IRA | 6 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $64,180 | $72,708 | 13.29% | https://collective2.com/details/106187009 3
IRA | 7 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $331,988 | $416,370 | 25.42% | https://collective2.com/details/126054331 8
IRA | 8 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $38,227 | $48,099 | 25.82% | https://collective2.com/details/107529017 9
IRA | 9 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $58,844 | $53,697 | -8.75% | https://collective2.com/details/77331265 3
IRA | 10 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $13,670 | $14,610 | 6.88% | https://collective2.com/details/124277653 3
IRA | 11 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $32,459 | $37,892 | 16.74% | https://collective2.com/details/117734561 6
IRA | 12 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $12,719 | $11,740 | -7.70% | https://collective2.com/details/123152690 2
IRA | 13 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $159,644 | $154,515 | -3.21% | https://collective2.com/details/119193310 2
IRA | 14 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $30,553 | $32,456 | 6.23% | https://collective2.com/details/124463618 1
IRA | 15 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $29,193 | $30,749 | 5.33% | https://collective2.com/details/124994120 2
Old Timers | 1 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $144,192 | $150,607 | 4.45% | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 4
Old Timers | 2 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $69,588 | $80,132 | 15.15% | https://collective2.com/details/106901765 4
Old Timers | 3 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $80,869 | $95,716 | 18.36% | https://collective2.com/details/106600099 7
Old Timers | 4 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $21,376 | $22,205 | 3.88% | https://collective2.com/details/106004078 3
Old Timers | 5 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $80,089 | $92,204 | 15.13% | https://collective2.com/details/106804598 7
Old Timers | 6 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $108,634 | $130,330 | 19.97% | https://collective2.com/details/111648302 3
Old Timers | 7 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $64,242 | $72,670 | 13.12% | https://collective2.com/details/106187009 3
Old Timers | 8 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $38,227 | $48,099 | 25.82% | https://collective2.com/details/107529017 9
Old Timers | 9 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $408,909 | $392,825 | -3.93% | https://collective2.com/details/100707640 1
Old Timers | 10 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $58,844 | $53,697 | -8.75% | https://collective2.com/details/77331265 3
Old Timers | 11 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $27,500 | $28,000 | 1.82% | https://collective2.com/details/77330504 2
Old Timers | 12 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $498,305 | $530,748 | 6.51% | https://collective2.com/details/75800796 2
Old Timers | 13 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $275,037 | $276,927 | 0.69% | https://collective2.com/details/77477692 2
Old Timers | 14 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $239,000 | $285,643 | 19.52% | https://collective2.com/details/94025749 5
Old Timers | 15 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $24,180 | $28,517 | 17.94% | https://collective2.com/details/104952602 5
Popularity | 1 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $48,044 | $47,960 | -0.17% | https://collective2.com/details/127328382 3
Popularity | 2 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $45,403 | $42,605 | -6.16% | https://collective2.com/details/127484605 1
Popularity | 3 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $65,454 | $65,588 | 0.20% | https://collective2.com/details/126548162 1
Popularity | 4 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $22,404 | $21,702 | -3.13% | https://collective2.com/details/125587405 2
Popularity | 5 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $50,125 | $51,369 | 2.48% | https://collective2.com/details/124283622 1
Popularity | 6 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $45,589 | $48,848 | 7.15% | https://collective2.com/details/125624499
Popularity | 7 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $55,151 | $54,281 | -1.58% | https://collective2.com/details/123071731 1
Popularity | 8 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $77,563 | $78,697 | 1.46% | https://collective2.com/details/123007535 2
Popularity | 9 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $55,651 | $49,199 | -11.59% | https://collective2.com/details/123472063 1
Popularity | 10 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $172,589 | $143,292 | -16.98% | https://collective2.com/details/117442067 3
Popularity | 11 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $118,045 | $107,448 | -8.98% | https://collective2.com/details/125206069
Popularity | 12 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $36,730 | $37,776 | 2.85% | https://collective2.com/details/124332528 1
Popularity | 13 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $143,890 | $150,674 | 4.71% | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 4
Popularity | 14 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $49,429 | $53,336 | 7.90% | https://collective2.com/details/127108876
Popularity | 15 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $66,256 | $71,121 | 7.34% | https://collective2.com/details/125284205
C2 Star | 1 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $50,653 | $53,387 | 5.40% | https://collective2.com/details/128203378 1
C2 Star | 2 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $46,799 | $49,272 | 5.28% | https://collective2.com/details/123562056
C2 Star | 3 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $50,807 | $51,215 | 0.80% | https://collective2.com/details/123458321
C2 Star | 4 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $49,429 | $53,336 | 7.90% | https://collective2.com/details/127108876
C2 Star | 5 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $50,945 | $68,432 | 34.33% | https://collective2.com/details/128842482 2
C2 Star | 6 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $46,059 | $47,458 | 3.04% | https://collective2.com/details/127124102
C2 Star | 7 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $47,451 | $47,960 | 1.07% | https://collective2.com/details/127328382 3
C2 Star | 8 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $51,947 | $50,332 | -3.11% | https://collective2.com/details/127023995
C2 Star | 9 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $47,500 | $47,900 | 0.84% | https://collective2.com/details/126079605
C2 Star | 10 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $51,364 | $40,927 | -20.32% | https://collective2.com/details/129347661 1
C2 Star | 11 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $50,583 | $51,331 | 1.48% | https://collective2.com/details/128210434
C2 Star | 12 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $55,811 | $49,199 | -11.85% | https://collective2.com/details/123472063 1
C2 Star | 13 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $51,161 | $49,860 | -2.54% | https://collective2.com/details/129227408
C2 Star | 14 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $50,125 | $51,369 | 2.48% | https://collective2.com/details/124283622 1
C2 Star | 15 | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $51,392 | $49,489 | -3.70% | https://collective2.com/details/128042302 1
SPY |  | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $313 | $334 | 6.74% | https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPY/history?period1=1583971200&period2=1599868800&interval=1d&filter=history&frequency=1d
SPY w dividends |  | 6/16/2020 | 9/12/2020 | $312 | $334 | 7.21% | https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPY/history?period1=1583971200&period2=1599868800&interval=1d&filter=history&frequency=1d

Board Category | Order | Start | End | Start $ | End $ | Return % | Link to Strategy
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
Popularity | 1 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128871252 5
Popularity | 2 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/123909762 1
Popularity | 3 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/106600099 7
Popularity | 4 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 1
Popularity | 5 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/106901765 4
Popularity | 6 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128743489
Popularity | 7 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/126434247
Popularity | 8 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/127124102
Popularity | 9 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128731010
Popularity | 10 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128843892
Popularity | 11 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/125284205
Popularity | 12 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/124283622 1
Popularity | 13 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/127764619
Popularity | 14 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128210434
Popularity | 15 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/123007535 2
TOS | 1 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/123909762 1
TOS | 2 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 1
TOS | 3 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/126434247
TOS | 4 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128133665
TOS | 5 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128022277
TOS | 6 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/127841340
TOS | 7 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/123937705 15
TOS | 8 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128415506
TOS | 9 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/129086277
TOS | 10 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/129317332
TOS | 11 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/129109805
TOS | 12 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 4
TOS | 13 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/117442067 3
TOS | 14 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/126923746
TOS | 15 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/124277653 3
IRA | 1 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/126054331 8
IRA | 2 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/123937705 15
IRA | 3 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/106004078 3
IRA | 4 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/107529017 9
IRA | 5 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/117734561 6
IRA | 6 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/124994120 2
IRA | 7 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/77477692 2
IRA | 8 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/124978054
IRA | 9 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/123231599
IRA | 10 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/124277653 3
IRA | 11 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/124343595
IRA | 12 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/120610209
IRA | 13 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/77331265 3
IRA | 14 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/105498828
IRA | 15 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/104155140 1
C2 Star | 1 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128825624 1
C2 Star | 2 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/130960459 1
C2 Star | 3 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/125624499
C2 Star | 4 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/130623196
C2 Star | 5 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128203378 1
C2 Star | 6 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/130949672
C2 Star | 7 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/127124102
C2 Star | 8 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/126043352
C2 Star | 9 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/130893898
C2 Star | 10 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/129227408
C2 Star | 11 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/123458321
C2 Star | 12 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/130705804
C2 Star | 13 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/131030893
C2 Star | 14 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/128042302 1
C2 Star | 15 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/130650608
Old Timers | 1 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/106600099 7
Old Timers | 2 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/106901765 4
Old Timers | 3 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/106004078 3
Old Timers | 4 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/81877382
Old Timers | 5 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/104952602 5
Old Timers | 6 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/107529017 9
Old Timers | 7 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/111648302 3
Old Timers | 8 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 4
Old Timers | 9 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/77477692 2
Old Timers | 10 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/100314882
Old Timers | 11 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/100707640 1
Old Timers | 12 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/77331265 3
Old Timers | 13 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/87581363
Old Timers | 14 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/105498828
Old Timers | 15 | 9/12/2020 | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | https://collective2.com/details/104155140 1

DogZebra_Investing
Sep '20

Incredibly interesting. Nice work.

It’s been a while since we’ve seen RJV63 — their last post was 4 years ago.

RJV63
DwightSchrute
Sep '20

Wow Dwight, Impressive. Thank you for sharing.

DwightSchrute
Sep '20

@DogZebra_Investing and @RJV63 thank you. It means a lot. It is definitely more work than I originally intended. I am glad people are finding it as interesting as I am.

VG2
Sep '20

Thank you so much for putting in the time to do this.

2 months later
InteractiveAssets
Nov '20

C2’s new scoring workbench may have some good solutions for this. However it may be missing a metric to build in for which leader board a strategy was on. For example, I ran this screen created by MatthewK. It shows strategies that are either fully or partially certified in the C2 star system. Since strategies 1-6 have a score of 1000 they were fully C2Star certified. There were many more that were half certified. Anyways YTD following those 6 strategies that were fully certified on January 6th resulted in a return of 17.89%. It is a very powerful and interesting tool to use.

https://collective2.com/scoring-workbench 11

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DwightSchrute
May '21

I finally updated my forward test. Here are the summary of the results.

% Return 6/16/2020 to 5/24/2021 |
--- | ---
POPULARITY 15 | 3.9%
C2 Star 15 | -4.5%
IRA 15 | 45.6%
OLD TIMERS 15 | 31.7%
TOS 15 | Incomplete
SPY | 33.9%
SPY w/ Dividends | 36.1%

% Return 9/12/2020 to 5/24/2021 |
--- | ---
POPULARITY 15 | 4.9%
C2 Star 15 | -5.8%
IRA 15 | 34.0%
OLD TIMERS 15 | 19.7%
TOS 15 | 22.3%
SPY | 25.5%
SPY w/ Dividends | 26.9%

Here is the completed table for this period of 9/12/2020 to 5/24/2021

Board Category | Order | Start | End | Start $ | End $ | Return % | Link to Strategy
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
Popularity | 1 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $79,111 | $94,270 | 19.16% | https://collective2.com/details/128871252 6
Popularity | 2 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $104,804 | $101,152 | -3.48% | https://collective2.com/details/123909762 6
Popularity | 3 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $94,000 | $84,793 | -9.79% | https://collective2.com/details/106600099 2
Popularity | 4 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $56,540 | $126,000 | 122.85% | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 11
Popularity | 5 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $80,132 | $72,000 | -10.15% | https://collective2.com/details/106901765 1
Popularity | 6 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $137,000 | $187,000 | 36.50% | https://collective2.com/details/128743489 2
Popularity | 7 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $21,867 | $22,972 | 5.05% | https://collective2.com/details/126434247 1
Popularity | 8 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $45 | $0 | -100.00% | https://collective2.com/details/127124102 2
Popularity | 9 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $81,328 | $77,500 | -4.71% | https://collective2.com/details/128731010 2
Popularity | 10 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $92,396 | $96,102 | 4.01% | https://collective2.com/details/128843892
Popularity | 11 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $71,000 | $66,682 | -6.08% | https://collective2.com/details/125284205
Popularity | 12 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $44,000 | $51,000 | 15.91% | https://collective2.com/details/124283622 1
Popularity | 13 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $86,000 | $127,000 | 47.67% | https://collective2.com/details/127764619 1
Popularity | 14 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $50,000 | $17,000 | -66.00% | https://collective2.com/details/128210434 2
Popularity | 15 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $78,700 | $96,700 | 22.87% | https://collective2.com/details/123007535 2
TOS | 1 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $104,800 | $100,982 | -3.64% | https://collective2.com/details/123909762 6
TOS | 2 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $56,540 | $126,012 | 122.87% | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 11
TOS | 3 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $21,867 | $22,972 | 5.05% | https://collective2.com/details/126434247 1
TOS | 4 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $101,286 | $125,919 | 24.32% | https://collective2.com/details/128133665 1
TOS | 5 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $30,663 | $35,372 | 15.36% | https://collective2.com/details/128022277 1
TOS | 6 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $44,542 | $58,198 | 30.66% | https://collective2.com/details/127841340 1
TOS | 7 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $90,232 | $146,600 | 62.47% | https://collective2.com/details/123937705 5
TOS | 8 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $380,000 | $528,000 | 38.95% | https://collective2.com/details/128415506 2
TOS | 9 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $16,019 | $13,147 | -17.93% | https://collective2.com/details/129086277 1
TOS | 10 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $28,500 | $29,000 | 1.75% | https://collective2.com/details/129317332
TOS | 11 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $41,557 | $47,840 | 15.12% | https://collective2.com/details/129109805 1
TOS | 12 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $151,000 | $175,500 | 16.23% | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 2
TOS | 13 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $143,000 | $223,000 | 55.94% | https://collective2.com/details/117442067 1
TOS | 14 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $36,700 | $22,800 | -37.87% | https://collective2.com/details/126923746
TOS | 15 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $14,610 | $15,367 | 5.18% | https://collective2.com/details/124277653 1
IRA | 1 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $416,000 | $548,000 | 31.73% | https://collective2.com/details/126054331 2
IRA | 2 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $90,234 | $146,700 | 62.58% | https://collective2.com/details/123937705 5
IRA | 3 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $22,000 | $20,700 | -5.91% | https://collective2.com/details/106004078
IRA | 4 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $48,000 | $53,800 | 12.08% | https://collective2.com/details/107529017
IRA | 5 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $37,900 | $63,700 | 68.07% | https://collective2.com/details/117734561 1
IRA | 6 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $30,567 | $42,723 | 39.77% | https://collective2.com/details/124994120
IRA | 7 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $284,000 | $327,000 | 15.14% | https://collective2.com/details/77477692
IRA | 8 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $26,575 | $42,350 | 59.36% | https://collective2.com/details/124978054 3
IRA | 9 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $123,000 | $179,000 | 45.53% | https://collective2.com/details/123231599 1
IRA | 10 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $14,610 | $15,365 | 5.17% | https://collective2.com/details/124277653 1
IRA | 11 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $77,800 | $77,300 | -0.64% | https://collective2.com/details/124343595
IRA | 12 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $35,337 | $71,980 | 103.70% | https://collective2.com/details/120610209 2
IRA | 13 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $59,109 | $69,865 | 18.20% | https://collective2.com/details/77331265
IRA | 14 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $24,374 | $38,000 | 55.90% | https://collective2.com/details/105498828 2
IRA | 15 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $77,600 | $76,982 | -0.80% | https://collective2.com/details/104155140
C2 Star | 1 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $49,355 | $46,683 | -5.41% | https://collective2.com/details/128825624 1
C2 Star | 2 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $45,454 | $39,362 | -13.40% | future
C2 Star | 3 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $48,800 | $61,000 | 25.00% | https://collective2.com/details/125624499
C2 Star | 4 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $48,640 | $96,700 | 98.81% | https://collective2.com/details/130623196 3
C2 Star | 5 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $41,700 | $38,000 | -8.87% | ES Focus
C2 Star | 6 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $49,615 | $47,400 | -4.46% | https://collective2.com/details/130949672
C2 Star | 7 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $45 | $0 | -100.00% | https://collective2.com/details/127124102 2
C2 Star | 8 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $47,000 | $2,500 | -94.68% | https://collective2.com/details/126043352
C2 Star | 9 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $50,600 | $50,200 | -0.79% | https://collective2.com/details/130893898
C2 Star | 10 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $45,000 | $45,000 | 0.00% | https://collective2.com/details/129227408
C2 Star | 11 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $51,000 | $45,000 | -11.76% | https://collective2.com/details/123458321
C2 Star | 12 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $48,000 | $52,000 | 8.33% | https://collective2.com/details/130705804
C2 Star | 13 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $50,211 | $56,119 | 11.77% | https://collective2.com/details/131030893
C2 Star | 14 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $49,500 | $47,620 | -3.80% | https://collective2.com/details/128042302
C2 Star | 15 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $37,800 | $42,300 | 11.90% | https://collective2.com/details/130650608 1
Old Timers | 1 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $95,700 | $85,000 | -11.18% | https://collective2.com/details/106600099 2
Old Timers | 2 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $80,132 | $72,304 | -9.77% | https://collective2.com/details/106901765 1
Old Timers | 3 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $22,205 | $20,759 | -6.51% | https://collective2.com/details/106004078
Old Timers | 4 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $604,000 | $704,000 | 16.56% | https://collective2.com/details/81877382
Old Timers | 5 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $28,517 | $30,250 | 6.08% | https://collective2.com/details/104952602
Old Timers | 6 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $48,099 | $53,819 | 11.89% | https://collective2.com/details/107529017
Old Timers | 7 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $130,330 | $181,880 | 39.55% | https://collective2.com/details/111648302 1
Old Timers | 8 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $151,000 | $175,500 | 16.23% | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 2
Old Timers | 9 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $284,000 | $327,000 | 15.14% | https://collective2.com/details/77477692
Old Timers | 10 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $287,000 | $298,000 | 3.83% | https://collective2.com/details/100314882
Old Timers | 11 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $392,000 | $247,777 | -36.79% | https://collective2.com/details/100707640
Old Timers | 12 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $59,109 | $69,414 | 17.43% | https://collective2.com/details/77331265
Old Timers | 13 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $173,000 | $481,700 | 178.44% | https://collective2.com/details/87581363 4
Old Timers | 14 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $24,372 | $38,040 | 56.08% | https://collective2.com/details/105498828 2
Old Timers | 15 | 9/12/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $77,600 | $77,000 | -0.77% | https://collective2.com/details/104155140
SPY |  | 9/11/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $334 | $419 | 25.48% | https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPY/history?
SPY w dividends |  | 9/11/2020 | 5/24/2021 | $330 | $419 | 26.93% | https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPY/history

Here is the table with a snapshot of the current 15 tops strategies in each category at this moment that I will manually check in a few months or later.

Board Category | Order | Start | End | Start $ | End $ | Return % | Link to Strategy
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
Popularity | 1 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 11
Popularity | 2 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/132622706 2
Popularity | 3 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/131967341 2
Popularity | 4 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/125624499
Popularity | 5 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/126454200
Popularity | 6 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/132009577
Popularity | 7 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/131561344 2
Popularity | 8 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/133502610
Popularity | 9 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/130453775
Popularity | 10 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/124978054 3
Popularity | 11 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/129373845
Popularity | 12 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/132007449
Popularity | 13 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/132148218
Popularity | 14 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/132383133
Popularity | 15 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/123231599 1
TOS | 1 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 11
TOS | 2 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/131561344 2
TOS | 3 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/123937705 5
TOS | 4 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/126548162
TOS | 5 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/130576078
TOS | 6 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/131612959
TOS | 7 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/132146405
TOS | 8 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/117442067 1
TOS | 9 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/127924250
TOS | 10 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/128022277 1
TOS | 11 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 2
TOS | 12 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/87581363 4
TOS | 13 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/127841340 1
TOS | 14 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/128415506 2
TOS | 15 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/130482646
IRA | 1 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 11
IRA | 2 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/131561344 2
IRA | 3 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/124978054 3
IRA | 4 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/129373845
IRA | 5 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/123231599 1
IRA | 6 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/130018805
IRA | 7 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/132165642
IRA | 8 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/126444124
IRA | 9 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/129134794
IRA | 10 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/132385285 1
IRA | 11 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/126548162
IRA | 12 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/123007535 2
IRA | 13 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/126054331 2
IRA | 14 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/131972338
IRA | 15 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/124994120
C2 Star | 1 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/134255487 1
C2 Star | 2 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/134255352 1
C2 Star | 3 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/135324998
C2 Star | 4 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/134255388
C2 Star | 5 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/135204864
C2 Star | 6 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/135662488
C2 Star | 7 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/135117731
C2 Star | 8 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/135656292
C2 Star | 9 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/134260510
C2 Star | 10 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/135638383
C2 Star | 11 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/134370531
C2 Star | 12 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/135282700
C2 Star | 13 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/135662477
C2 Star | 14 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/132920574
C2 Star | 15 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/131741853
Old Timers | 1 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/75800796 2
Old Timers | 2 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/117442067 1
Old Timers | 3 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 2
Old Timers | 4 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/100314882
Old Timers | 5 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/115424989
Old Timers | 6 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/13202557
Old Timers | 7 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/85633603
Old Timers | 8 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/106901765 1
Old Timers | 9 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/87581363 4
Old Timers | 10 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/106600099 2
Old Timers | 11 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/100707640
Old Timers | 12 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/107529017
Old Timers | 13 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/111648302 1
Old Timers | 14 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/106187009
Old Timers | 15 | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  | https://collective2.com/details/106804598
SPY |  | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  |
SPY w dividends |  | 5/24/2021 | TBD |  |  |  |
Board Category | Order | Start | End |  |  |  |

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- Some top systems for your portfolio
- Killed systems data

DwightSchrute
May '21

I just think this is extremely fascinating. I wish I had taken a snapshot of the TOS leaderboard on 6/16/2020 when I started this, but based on the 9/12/2021 to 5/24/2021 summary table It seems like it would have likely underperformed the market on a total return basis.

I don’t know what the right metric is to identify systems that will work well in markets like we had over the last year, but for some reason what was used on the popularity and C2 boards seems to be particularly not it.

MAP
May '21

Good analysis. You are doing a great job.

NextLevelTrader
DwightSchrute
May '21

If a strategy returned more profits than the index over the course of a few years then it is a success. Sage Volatility is on the old timer list which has performed well.

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InteractiveAssets
Jul '23

This a snapshot of the strategies for a new rebalance.

Board Category | Order | Start | Link to Strategy
--- | --- | --- | ---
Popularity | 1 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/13202557 1
Popularity | 2 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/132148218 1
Popularity | 3 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143198202 1
Popularity | 4 | 7/30/2023 | Limited 1
Popularity | 5 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/141257511 1
Popularity | 6 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/30415311 1
Popularity | 7 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/140995589
Popularity | 8 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/142187563
Popularity | 9 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143547275 1
Popularity | 10 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/141612669 1
Popularity | 11 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/22906062
Popularity | 12 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/134694052
Popularity | 13 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/142930966
Popularity | 14 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143555537 1
Popularity | 15 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/97088697
TOS | 1 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/142930966
TOS | 2 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143648151 1
TOS | 3 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/131561344
TOS | 4 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/81128026 1
TOS | 5 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 1
TOS | 6 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/127841340 1
TOS | 7 | 7/30/2023 | AVRA Opportunity
TOS | 8 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/141042996
TOS | 9 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/140513127
TOS | 10 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143110798
TOS | 11 | 7/30/2023 | Alpha Algo Trade AI Plus
TOS | 12 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/137412784
TOS | 13 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/141957235
TOS | 14 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143338437
TOS | 15 | 7/30/2023 | SP 500 Futures Scalper
IRA | 1 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/141257511 1
IRA | 2 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/141612669 1
IRA | 3 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/134694052
IRA | 4 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/142930966
IRA | 5 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/142012072
IRA | 6 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143648151 1
IRA | 7 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/138034854
IRA | 8 | 7/30/2023 | Crono
IRA | 9 | 7/30/2023 | AVRA Opportunity
IRA | 10 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/117734561
IRA | 11 | 7/30/2023 | Strategy 27
IRA | 12 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/141042996
IRA | 13 | 7/30/2023 | Veteran Agents Portfolio
IRA | 14 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143073184
IRA | 15 | 7/30/2023 | Alpha Algo Trade AI Plus
C2 Star | 1 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143547275 1
C2 Star | 2 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143426302
C2 Star | 3 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/144229726
C2 Star | 4 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/144505677
C2 Star | 5 | 7/30/2023 | Lightly
C2 Star | 6 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/142757983
C2 Star | 7 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/142830328
C2 Star | 8 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/144265023
C2 Star | 9 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143533591
C2 Star | 10 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/144325098
C2 Star | 11 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/144220526
C2 Star | 12 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/144355955
C2 Star | 13 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/142187563
C2 Star | 14 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/143198202 1
C2 Star | 15 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/144526247
Old Timers | 1 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/13202557 1
Old Timers | 2 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/30415311 1
Old Timers | 3 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/129134794
Old Timers | 4 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/81877382
Old Timers | 5 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/125237603
Old Timers | 6 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/81128026 1
Old Timers | 7 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 1
Old Timers | 8 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/127841340 1
Old Timers | 9 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/117734561
Old Timers | 10 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/104874116
Old Timers | 11 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/106187009
Old Timers | 12 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/127764619
Old Timers | 13 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/124125457
Old Timers | 14 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/128743489
Old Timers | 15 | 7/30/2023 | https://collective2.com/details/75800796

InteractiveAssets
Jul '23

I updated the forward test. Sometimes it is difficult to decide exactly what to include because some strategies shut down with open positions. Or they may have a really smooth curve experience massive drop subscribers seem to quite, then they take a big bet and recover. However, subscribers tend to not come back then the strategies close. Items like this and others make it difficult to fully grasp the significance of the results without looking pretty deep at each strategy included. This difficulty in my opinion is amplified with the C2 Star leaderboard. I say that because the strategy was on that particular leaderboard because of its stability. When leaders lose their certification or subscribers and start taking huge bets things get unrealistic fast.

C2 Star Examples of Wild Behavior post losing C2Star status:

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### Just E mini SP500 2

Just E mini SP500 - trading strategy on Collective2

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### tqqqnqq 1

tqqqnqq - trading strategy on Collective2

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### future 1

future - trading strategy on Collective2

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### T StarMNQ

T StarMNQ - trading strategy on Collective2

Naturally it is difficult to decide what to include. In the first table I have included every trade. In the second table I also included every single trade except for the last one on the strategy future which appeared to occur after the C2 Star certification/subs were lost and the leader just left a huge position open etc. The third table shows each strategy result and a link to the details. If you click on a strategy link and it is private, in the url replace the word details with performance to see a chart of the strategy.

| 6/16/2020 to 9/12/2020 | 9/12/2020 to 5/24/2021 | 5/24/2021 to 7/30/2023 | 6/16/2020 to 7/30/2023 | 9/12/2020 to 7/30/2023
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
Popularity 15 | -1.0% | 4.92% | 20.34% | 25% | 26%
TOS 15 | Not Available | 22.30% | -6.18% | Not Available | 15%
IRA 15 | 8.6% | 33.99% | 14.04% | 66% | 53%
C2 Star 15 | 1.4% | -5.83% | 36.91% | 31% | 29%
Old-Timers 15 | 10.0% | 19.75% | -12.25% | 16% | 5%
SPY with DRIP | 7.2% | 26.93% | 12.73% | 53% | 43%
Years | 0.24 | 0.70 | 2.18 | 3.12 | 2.88

| 6/16/2020 to 9/12/2020 | 9/12/2020 to 5/24/2021 | 5/24/2021 to 7/30/2023 | 6/16/2020 to 7/30/2023 | 9/12/2020 to 7/30/2023
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
Popularity 15 | -1.0% | 4.92% | 20.34% | 25% | 26%
TOS 15 | Not Available | 22.30% | -6.18% | Not Available | 15%
IRA 15 | 8.6% | 33.99% | 14.04% | 66% | 53%
C2 Star *15 | 1.4% | -5.83% | 5.04% | 0% | -1%
Old-Timers 15 | 10.0% | 19.75% | -12.25% | 16% | 5%
SPY with DRIP | 7.2% | 26.93% | 12.73% | 53% | 43%
Years | 0.24 | 0.70 | 2.18 | 3.12 | 2.88
*Excluding the last month of strategy ID 134255388 due to its likely closure. |  |  |  |  |

Board Category | Order | Start | End | Start $ | End $ | Return % | Link to Strategy | Notes
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
Popularity | 1 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $62,515 | $92,944 | 48.67% | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 |
Popularity | 2 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $120,000 | $112,000 | -6.67% | https://collective2.com/details/132622706 |
Popularity | 3 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $62,000 | $85,000 | 37.10% | Collective2 |
Popularity | 4 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $61,227 | $135,500 | 121.31% | https://collective2.com/details/125624499 1 |
Popularity | 5 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $310,000 | $360,000 | 16.13% | https://collective2.com/details/126454200 |
Popularity | 6 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $36,428 | $35,000 | -3.92% | Algebra Crypto Fund |
Popularity | 7 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $53,000 | $83,000 | 56.60% | AI TQQQ only swing |
Popularity | 8 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $130,700 | $84,000 | -35.73% | The Lab |
Popularity | 9 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $120,000 | $120,000 | 0.00% | https://collective2.com/details/130453775 |
Popularity | 10 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $42,400 | $38,700 | -8.73% | https://collective2.com/details/124978054 |
Popularity | 11 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $23,200 | $27,800 | 19.83% | https://collective2.com/details/129373845 |
Popularity | 12 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $95,000 | $76,000 | -20.00% | https://collective2.com/details/132007449 |
Popularity | 13 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $36,400 | $67,000 | 84.07% | https://collective2.com/details/132148218 1 |
Popularity | 14 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $77,600 | $75,745 | -2.39% | Trade2Short |
Popularity | 15 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $179,500 | $177,360 | -1.19% | https://collective2.com/details/123231599 |
TOS | 1 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $62,515 | $92,944 | 48.67% | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 |
TOS | 2 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $53,036 | $83,107 | 56.70% | https://collective2.com/details/131561344 |
TOS | 3 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $148,595 | $146,985 | -1.08% | https://collective2.com/details/123937705 |
TOS | 4 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $68,948 | $65,000 | -5.73% | https://collective2.com/details/126548162 |
TOS | 5 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $92,891 | $75,000 | -19.26% | https://collective2.com/details/130576078 |
TOS | 6 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $81,618 | $48,545 | -40.52% | https://collective2.com/details/131612959 |
TOS | 7 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $22,000 | $21,828 | -0.78% | https://collective2.com/details/132146405 |
TOS | 8 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $225,000 | $190,000 | -15.56% | https://collective2.com/details/117442067 |
TOS | 9 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $119,800 | $78,910 | -34.13% | https://collective2.com/details/127924250 |
TOS | 10 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $35,800 | $628 | -98.25% | https://collective2.com/details/128022277 |
TOS | 11 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $183,000 | $178,000 | -2.73% | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 |
TOS | 12 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $498,000 | $130,000 | -73.90% | https://collective2.com/details/87581363 |
TOS | 13 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $59,000 | $114,000 | 93.22% | https://collective2.com/details/127841340 2 |
TOS | 14 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $536,000 | $610,000 | 13.81% | ALPS 1 |
TOS | 15 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $23,000 | $19,975 | -13.15% | https://collective2.com/details/130482646 |
IRA | 1 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $62,500 | $92,900 | 48.64% | https://collective2.com/details/128265049 |
IRA | 2 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $53,000 | $83,107 | 56.81% | https://collective2.com/details/131561344 |
IRA | 3 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $42,442 | $38,700 | -8.82% | https://collective2.com/details/124978054 |
IRA | 4 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $23,090 | $27,864 | 20.68% | https://collective2.com/details/129373845 |
IRA | 5 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $178,894 | $177,360 | -0.86% | https://collective2.com/details/123231599 |
IRA | 6 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $117,000 | $112,200 | -4.10% | https://collective2.com/details/130018805 |
IRA | 7 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $67,000 | $71,780 | 7.13% | https://collective2.com/details/132165642 |
IRA | 8 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $101,500 | $70,220 | -30.82% | https://collective2.com/details/126444124 |
IRA | 9 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $37,888 | $99,200 | 161.82% | JC Alpha 1 |
IRA | 10 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $77,000 | $67,500 | -12.34% | https://collective2.com/details/132385285 |
IRA | 11 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $68,948 | $65,051 | -5.65% | https://collective2.com/details/126548162 |
IRA | 12 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $97,080 | $70,500 | -27.38% | https://collective2.com/details/123007535 |
IRA | 13 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $548,400 | $591,000 | 7.77% | https://collective2.com/details/126054331 |
IRA | 14 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $53,068 | $52,500 | -1.07% | https://collective2.com/details/131972338 |
IRA | 15 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $42,910 | $42,362 | -1.28% | https://collective2.com/details/124994120 |
C2 Star | 1 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $26,000 | $74,925 | 188.17% | https://collective2.com/details/134255487 2 | Most of return would have happened after C2 Star status lost.
C2 Star | 2 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $47,500 | $74,951 | 57.79% | https://collective2.com/details/134255352 1 | Most of return would have happened after C2 Star status lost.
C2 Star | 3 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $51,000 | $39,500 | -22.55% | https://collective2.com/details/135324998 |
C2 Star | 4 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $46,400 | $266,000 | 473.28% | https://collective2.com/details/134255388 1 |
C2 Star | 5 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $52,582 | $55,282 | 5.13% | https://collective2.com/details/135204864 |
C2 Star | 6 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $23,123 | -$1,011 | -104.37% | https://collective2.com/details/135662488 | Huge drop
C2 Star | 7 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $52,005 | $51,540 | -0.89% | https://collective2.com/details/135117731 |
C2 Star | 8 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $32,300 | $53,997 | 67.17% | https://collective2.com/details/135656292 |
C2 Star | 9 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $51,057 | $48,169 | -5.66% | https://collective2.com/details/134260510 |
C2 Star | 10 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $35,000 | $54,336 | 55.25% | https://collective2.com/details/135638383 | huge drawdown
C2 Star | 11 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $47,870 | $48,483 | 1.28% | https://collective2.com/details/134370531 |
C2 Star | 12 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $45,044 | $42,871 | -4.82% | https://collective2.com/details/135282700 |
C2 Star | 13 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $30,000 | -$12,000 | -140.00% | https://collective2.com/details/135662477 |
C2 Star | 14 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $54,600 | $69,500 | 27.29% | https://collective2.com/details/132920574 |
C2 Star | 15 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $51,445 | $29,129 | -43.38% | https://collective2.com/details/131741853 |
Old Timers | 1 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $598,000 | $799,777 | 33.74% | https://collective2.com/details/75800796 |
Old Timers | 2 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $200,000 | $200,000 | 0.00% | https://collective2.com/details/117442067 |
Old Timers | 3 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $177,000 | $178,000 | 0.56% | https://collective2.com/details/102427283 |
Old Timers | 4 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $301,600 | $188,000 | -37.67% | https://collective2.com/details/100314882 |
Old Timers | 5 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $120,000 | $95,000 | -20.83% | https://collective2.com/details/115424989 |
Old Timers | 6 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $53,800 | $63,574 | 18.17% | https://collective2.com/details/13202557 |
Old Timers | 7 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $49,772 | $47,578 | -4.41% | https://collective2.com/details/85633603 |
Old Timers | 8 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $80,000 | $75,000 | -6.25% | https://collective2.com/details/106901765 |
Old Timers | 9 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $485,000 | $148,000 | -69.48% | https://collective2.com/details/87581363 | wild one
Old Timers | 10 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $100,000 | $90,000 | -10.00% | https://collective2.com/details/106600099 |
Old Timers | 11 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $249,505 | $153,700 | -38.40% | https://collective2.com/details/100707640 |
Old Timers | 12 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $53,791 | $52,252 | -2.86% | https://collective2.com/details/107529017 |
Old Timers | 13 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $36,158 | $40,828 | 12.92% | https://collective2.com/details/111648302 |
Old Timers | 14 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $66,966 | $61,571 | -8.06% | https://collective2.com/details/106187009 |
Old Timers | 15 | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $77,828 | $37,978 | -51.20% | https://collective2.com/details/106804598 |
SPY |  | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $419 | $457 | 9.01% |  |
SPY w dividends |  | 5/24/2021 | 7/30/2023 | $405 | $457 | 12.73% |  |

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